Curse

Verranicus · Jan 06, 2007, 06:35 AM // 06:35

Could anyone recommend a decent secondary for a beginner PVE Assassin? ^^

Coloneh · Jan 06, 2007, 06:58 AM // 06:58

i would go with /monk if it is one of your first character. but if it is your first character, i would also suggest not making an assasin your first character. start with elementalist or warrior, assassins have a pretty steep learning curve.

jesh · Jan 06, 2007, 09:35 AM // 09:35

Assassin already has condition removal built into their skillset, so it's a lot more up in the air than with other classes. I like to use warrior for an attack speed skill. You can also try necromancer for Mark of Pain, or whatever else you can think of. If you find yourself taking all assassin skills, which is very likely, you can always use A/Mo/P/Rt for a hard res skill.

Yanman.be · Jan 06, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Take a secondary that you have not yet played. That way you can unlock some of the skills. BUT! Don't use the secondary. My usual advice to people with this question is to stay pure assassin untill they can solve their own question.

Senrath · Jan 06, 2007, 05:40 PM // 17:40

I went A/Rt my first time for some fun with weapon spells :P But I wouldn't reccomend that unless you know what you're doing with a sin. You might want to do A/R though, just for Apply Poison, and maybe some stances.

Yanman.be · Jan 06, 2007, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Why the hell would you waste 15e on poison f you have falling spider and black spider strike, 2 clearly superior skills?

Senrath · Jan 07, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Why the hell would you waste 15e on poison f you have falling spider and black spider strike, 2 clearly superior skills?

Clearly superior, huh? I disagree. For one, Falling Spider requires them to be knocked down and Black Spider Strike requires them to be hexed, while Apply Poison doesn't. For another, you can continually hit them with poison even if they remove it once or twice with Apply Poison, while you can only hit them at most once per recharge of the Spider skills. And finally, you can hit more than one enemy with Apply Poison, but not with the Spider skills.

Skuld · Jan 07, 2007, 03:18 AM // 03:18

and apply poison requires you to be a/r and takes unneeded attribute points into wilderness, and they won't remove the poison if they're dead

jesh · Jan 07, 2007, 08:52 AM // 08:52

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Why the hell would you waste 15e on poison f you have falling spider and black spider strike, 2 clearly superior skills?

Agree. Black Spider Strike should probably be part of your combo at any rate.

Yanman.be · Jan 07, 2007, 10:17 AM // 10:17

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Originally Posted by Senrath

Clearly superior, huh? I disagree. For one, Falling Spider requires them to be knocked down and Black Spider Strike requires them to be hexed, while Apply Poison doesn't. For another, you can continually hit them with poison even if they remove it once or twice with Apply Poison, while you can only hit them at most once per recharge of the Spider skills. And finally, you can hit more than one enemy with Apply Poison, but not with the Spider skills.

You disagree. Fine

But I'm not an auto-attacker, as you seem to be.

Tarantus · Jan 07, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

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Originally Posted by Senrath

Clearly superior, huh? I disagree. For one, Falling Spider requires them to be knocked down and Black Spider Strike requires them to be hexed, while Apply Poison doesn't. For another, you can continually hit them with poison even if they remove it once or twice with Apply Poison, while you can only hit them at most once per recharge of the Spider skills. And finally, you can hit more than one enemy with Apply Poison, but not with the Spider skills.

Knockdown is easily achieved by horns of the ox/shock/iron palm/mark of instability/scorpion wire and there are a lot of hexes to choose from just with a primary assassin.
And as apply poison is under wilderness survival, you'll probably have to sacrifice shadow arts,and I wouldn't want to have to use troll unguent as my self heal...

Diddy bow · Jan 07, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58

apply poison is fine if your wanting to inflict it on many people but thats not an assassins job...
I think /W is your best bet its the most versitile with attack buffs that wont need any attribute spending(so more healing for early on) and there are some great warrior elite you can use too.
The other secondaries can be adapted and become exelent too but they arent so gd for starters

Blood and Iron · Jan 09, 2007, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Let's not split hairs. I'm not a totally extraordinary assassin when I play, but seems to me that you'd may as well just get hard-hitting skills and augment them with AP. For example, Apply poison + Death Blossom. Need I say more? You really only lose 5 extra energy from it when you consider you don't have to waste time and effort knocking them down with Deadly Asp, and what's an assassin's only real means of survival? Efficiency. Fast spike and quit while you're ahead. Good way to tie up a group with worrying about a condition while you plot a hasty retreat. My opinion, anyway. As I said, 'sin's really not my first pick.

Diddy bow · Jan 09, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03

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Originally Posted by Blood and Iron

, Apply poison + Death Blossom. Need I say more?.

This will only poison one guy though

Yanman.be · Jan 09, 2007, 10:18 AM // 10:18

People should learn the game basics before posting. (Ok, yesterday I sad Decapitate + Zealous Anthem, it doesn't work either. )